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Clive Thorp's avatar

I think my greatest regret in reading this is that a civil servant has been named and criticised, when he has no ability to respond. The guest writer has in my view badly wronged him. But Ross Bell, on her description, is doing a very good policy job, by remaining really close to the alcohol industry and seeking to learn as much as possible about how they think, and whatever they offer in terms of studies they have made of their industry and abuse of alcohol. The real risk for the MoH, which employs public health doctors equally dedicated to reducing harms from alcohol as Ms Gregan, is that when it comes to the final policy proposal, their advice will get pre-empted. They must warn the Minister of all the industry might seek to affect at the last minute, by knowing it intimately. It is Ministers and MPs who take decisions on policy, not civil servants, but they should get good advice. In this case I am sure they are, and find Ms Gregan's assumption she knows better to be arrogant and offensive to hard-working health 'colleagues'.

Ms Gregan has used a WHO website page on non-communicable diseases to completely misrepresent the ills of alcohol. The WHO says that four NCDs account for 80% of NCD deaths - cardiovascular, COPDs, cancer and diabetes. The WHO says that alcohol (and tobacco and a few others) are 'risk factors' in NCDs. Ms Gregan says the 80% figure is for NZ, and that alcohol 'drives' the 80% statistic, which is clearly nonsense. One won't get far with distortions like this, with people who know that about 76% of NZ adults drink alcohol, and that the levels of harmful drinking, on MoH definition, are slowly decreasing, most quickly among the young. Alcohol is OK in moderation and drunk that way by over 3 million Kiwis, but there are 720k argued to be drinking at harmful levels at times. These are the target for policy, and leaving the industry out of it, when it (see its website) agrees they exist and spends money trying to identify and minimise this problem, would be silly.

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The success of alcohol lobbying is probably no greater than say sports lobbying (it would be useful to have had some comparisons with other such lobby groups for stuff that people want). That doesn't mean that it is right to provide any group (industrial, ethnic, community, whatever) with more than its fair democratic share of access to decision makers, as available to any group or individual . Except when government is in direct negotiation over specific changes. Free alcohol coming from the industry should most certainly be a no no. Whilst not supporting official lobbyists, or a lobbyists register, I do think to be able to monitor unfair lobbying, all members of parliament and government officials should be required to keep and make available on demand, records of whom they have been communicating with outside of ongoing contracts, provision of services and similar arrangements. I don't know if the time is right to change the public image of alcohol as a "fun product" but it certainly is responsible for a lot of damage and cost.

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